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Bonaire,GA,USA

Member Since:

Aug 30, 2008

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

My accomplishment to date completing 15 marathons and 6 ultras....nothing fast....yet.

Short-Term Running Goals:

In the next 2 years I'd like to complete three 50 milers and a hundred miler before I turn 40.  I'd like to break 5 hour marathon and then a 4:45 marathon and then keep improving.  I’m starting to think I’ll hit 100 miles before I see a sub 5 hour marathon…..Geez.

Fifty miler #1:  2008 JFK 50  13:29:53

#2 Hearland 50  13:51 (got lost had to find road back)

#Bethel Hill Moonlight Boogie  June 12, 2010...very soon

Two down....one more to go!

Long-Term Running Goals:

I would like to run 100 miles.

Personal:

I've got two wonderful kids who are 6 and 8.  I want to pass on the joy of running.

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My computer is in the best buy repair shop so I'll be updating a weeks worth of info at a time until it is returnerd.

I finished a 20 miler with my local running group.  We started out with quite a few folks and people dropped off at the different mile marks.  In the end there were only 2 of us to finish up the 20 miles.  Is is sad that a 67 year old man was dusting me?  Man, I was just keeping up with him.  He and I will be running a marathon together in 2 weeks.  Let's hope I can hang with him....I might end up with a PR.

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My legs are soooooooooo sore from yesterday.  Dang....how does that old man do it?!

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 13:37:37

Maybe he's been running longer than you've been alive!

Keep up the good work.

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Was too lazy to run hills this morning so I found myself on the treadmill once again doing repeats at night time.  I often wonder if I'm working harder on the tread mill. 

I ran with my heart rate monitor and got up to 192 BPM (yikes).  Next week I'll do the actual hill workout on the road and compare the two. 

I'm thinking I'll need to tone the incline and/or speed down on the treadmill else this 30 something heart is going to jump out of my chest and go on strike.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:10:31

It seems like I read something recently about your heart rate going higher on a treadmill than with the same effort outside because you don't have wind to cool you, or something like that. Is there a fan that you can place so it blows on you when you're running on the treadmill? I've done that with a treadmill and found my heart rate was lower than doing the same workout on the treadmill without a fan.

From leslie on Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 13:30:22

Be careful, those treadmills are a pain. Hey when is your next big race? Tarzan and I are looking at doing Sunmart in Dec. Do you know of anyone that has done it? We are trying to find a real first-time friendly one. I read about the JFK 50 miler in my Ultra Running Magazine and thought of you. I can't remember if you said it was hilly. Was it trails or road. I didn't realize it was so big. I wonder if there is a 50miler that is slightly down hill the whole way???? I would fly anywhere for that!!! Hey, have a great day, and keep up the great running!!

From Deborah on Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 14:54:36

I don't know anything about the Sunmart in Dec. the more I read about it on the web I've got to say, it sounds like fun!

As for the JFK: The Appalacian Trail part of the race (the first 15 miles) was up and over a mountain....hilly. Even the down hills weren't too runable...trail had rocks size of cantaloups all over the place. After that the next 26-28 miles were flat and the last 8 or so miles were rolling hills. (they of course felt like HUGE mountains).

After doing research on different 50 milers I can suggest a couple more flat ones as well:

Aug 22 (I think) Lean Horse - SD

Oct 10 Heartland 100 & 50 Mile races (I'm going to be at this one) http://www.ksultrarunners.org/

The race participants are capped at 100 but are known for fantastic food at the aid stations.

There are also some in the spring if you were looking at that time frame:

Rocky Raccoon 50M/100M

Croom 50M - http://www.fools50.com/

Ironhorse - 50M www.ironhorse100kmclub.com

Dances with Dirt 50M (Green Swamp)- http://www.dwdgreenswamp.com/

Good luck on finding a race. Sometimes you have to dig deep on the net to find some of the smaller races. here are a couple of sites I've used:

http://theultramarathonstore.com/racesbydate.html

http://www.run100s.com/

From leslie on Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 16:51:02

Thanks so much for the detailed info, I have enjoyed reading over them. I think I am going to try Sunmart for my first 50 miler and see if I survive. Good luck on Heartland, I am anxious to see how you like it.

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Last long run before the race next weekend. The group decided to keep it under 10 miles.

The temps here were mid 70's on tuesday and below freezing this morning.  Brrrrrr.

On a different note, last night I signed up for a 100 mile race in Oct.  I was telling my running group about this.  As expected I got a lot of "are you nuts?!" comments.  What I wasn't expecting was the, "hey that sounds like fun, I'll sign up too".  No kidding!  One of the ladies I run with (she is so much more talented than me) has offered to join me.  She's done a 50 miler (about 1.5 hours quicker than I did) a little over a year ago.  Are you stunned reading this?  I'm still stunned that she offered and that was 12 hours ago.

Wow, that would be exciting to have someone to run my local long runs with between now and Oct.  I've got a few training marathons and ultras along the way.  My race partner from VA will be at a few of those (Thanks Elvis).  Also forgot to mention, my race partner from VA has also signed up for the 100 miler as well....although it was his idea...I'm not an ultra pimp. :)

On that note, good luck with your 50 mile training this year Leslie!

 

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From Nevels on Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 20:50:07

Which 100-miler did you sign up for in October? I'm planning on entering the Arkansas Traveller again, which is on Oct. 3, I think, and was curious....

Also, which race do you have next weekend?

From Deborah on Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 14:06:46

I'm doing a local marathon next weekend. My first 100 will be the:

Heartland 100 & 50 Mile Races

Spirit of the Prairie

October 10, 2009

Cassoday, Kansas

There will be a few more 50 mile and 100K races along the way between now and then.

If you have any training tips Nevels then I'd love to hear them!

From Nevels on Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 17:10:06

Good luck at the marathon and at Heartland!

If I had any training tips, they would be to get in some good long runs (running in 50 milers and 100k's is a great way to do it), get to where a 20-26 mile training run is no big deal, and do at least one (though I wish I had done more than one) set of back to back long runs (i.e. two consecutive days of running 20+ miles; mine was 22 miles late one night followed by 20 miles early the next morning). If you can get this kind of training in and have firm handle on your nutrition/hydration plan, you'll hammer home Heartland. Again, best of luck!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 19:36:30

You ultramarathoners are a rare breed. You're fortunate to have found friends to run with.

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Had a great 4 miles tonight. I went out for an easy run and felt fast. I didn't wear my garmin which is probably a good thing as it might have actually popped my good vibes bubble.

I started wearing my trail shoes to run in ...just the Asics 2130 in a trail version. I'm noticing that they are more comfortable then the regular Asics 2130 shoe. I would have thought the street and the trail version should have the same cut and basic "feel" but the trail shoes just seem to have a bit more room and feel more comfortable. Perhaps it all my imagination.

Saw an armadillo tonight. It crossed right in front of me. I looked like a hunched back cat until it went under a street light. Those guys can really book. I had no clue they could move so fast on those little legs.

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From Nevels on Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 21:05:59

I've also found that some trail shoes beat road shoes for road running. I bought a pair of Nike Trail Pegasus just to try, and though I thought they were a mediocre trail shoe, they made a fantastic pair of road shoes, more so even than their designated road shoe counterparts. Funny, huh?

From Kelli on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 17:24:11

I need to buy trail shoes for a 50 k (whichever one I decide to run now that mine got canceled). I was dreading it becasue I figured they would not get much wear time, but now I feel better about it! Thanks!!! Any suggestions?

Great running, as always! When is the next big race?

From Deborah on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 17:48:25

I don't know what to suggest for trail shoes. The ones I have now (Asics 2130 trail version) are OK for the light trails I've run. You might want to go to REI or a specialty store to try some on. I'm still searching for a more hard core pair of trail shoes myself.

My next few races are:

1/17 Museum of Aviation Marathon

2/7 Dances with Dirt, green swamp marathon

3/7 Snickers Marathon

From Nevels on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 18:42:39

I'm a big fan of Montrail and Inov-8 shoes. They both serve very different purposes; the Montrails tend to be very sturdy, heavy-duty trail running shoes, providing a decent amount of support and protection for your feet and ankles. Conversely, the Inov-8's tend to be more "minimalistic" trail shoes; they are by no means like running barefoot or with the Tarahumara sandals or even the Vibram 5-fingers, but they don't give much ankle support and more or less just provide a solid protection for your feet (good treads).

I don't know if that helps or even makes any sense, but, depending on what you're after, those are the shoes I like. I agree with Deborah in that I think you should go to a running specialty store (preferably one with experienced trail runners) to get their opinions based on your stride, footplant, current ankle strength, etc. Good luck!

From Kelli on Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 14:41:54

Thanks for the input---REI is on the to do list.

Good luck with your marathon this weekend!! WOW, 3 marathons planned all by March. You are NUTS!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:05:51

I can't believe you're doing a marathon a month for the next three months. But I guess you are an ultra runner.

From Deborah on Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:20:45

I'll let you know how they go. I did this once before just over a year ago - 6 races (marathon or ultras) in 4 months. I ended up with a stress fracture in my foot.

I'm trying to be a bit smarter about it...running more trail races and spreading the races out more (instead of running them every other weekend).

I have a race (or two) every month this year until Sept. I'm really hoping not to break/injure anything. It's one of my new year's goals for 2009.

Don't be too impressed. I still finish up near last with the grannies. I also still tip their walkers to ensure I don't finish last.

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 19:15:06

No matter what you say, I am still impressed. It does not matter how fast you run these things, you are still running them!!! AMAZING. GOOD LUCK.

From Kelli on Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 19:29:30

Hope the marathon went well---waiting for the race report!

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Cold and windy!  We started at a bone chilling 20 degrees and headed out for our 2 loops around Robins AFB.  The course itself is very FLAT with perhaps a total elevation change of 80' per half marathon.  Very nice.

I ran with my 67 y/o training partner and a fellow member of the local running club who was working on his marathon maniac status.  He had just run the Disney marathon 6 days prior.  We were also joined with a wonderful lady who has done some long runs with us.  She was running her very first half marathon.  As you can guess the conversation never lulled.

Shortly after starting it warmed up and I started reaping the benefits of a local marathon.  We were able to shed some clothes at mile 6 hading them over to the photographer and good friend knowing we'd see our jackets again at the finish line.  We passed (and were passed) by several folks exchanging words of encouragement.  Our half marathoners had only trained up to 10 miles and started struggling around mile 11.5 to the finish line.  We walked more than was expected but since I had no time goals it wasn't much of a problem. My goal is to show significant improvement by Snickers marathon so the moments of extended walking really helps cushion the base line. 

Around mile 19 I actually start to have pain in my hips (where it meets my lower back). Ouch!  My 67 year old running buddy started getting tired around mile 23-24 and needed to walk more....fine by me.

What I find most incredible is the fact we walked more than expected, messed around more at aid stations than expected and still within the cutoff time. Instead we finished with an ungraceful 5:45 but I had thought we were going to be over 6 with all the walking we did.

Overall it is still the worlds most dull race.  The race support is good, the race is well organized, and you can't ask for much more but runnng up and down the flight line is about as much fun as a root canal.  That said, if you are looking for a super fast finish then this should be on your to-do list.

Side note: My friend just sent word that he is now officially MM #1317 !!

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From Kelli on Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 19:05:21

A marathon is a marathon no matter how you slice it!! Good job. Sorry it was dull and as fun as a root canal (that made me laugh, cause that is how I feel about all marathons!) Hope all of your aches and pains are feeling better! Great job on #1 Marathon for the year!

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OK, I was a big chicken and decided NOT to run in the 19 degree weather to do my hill repeats this morn.  I know what you are thinking....she is NOT a die hard runner....yep, you are correct.

Instead, I did put kids to bed, cleaned up the kitchen and hit the treadmill at the gym at 9:30 this evening for my hill repeats.  So instead of suffering in the cold wondering if a car is going to hit me I ran on a tread mill, watched the inagural ball on 6 TVs, listened to some entertaining music, and watched a bunch of young people strut.  

I ran the marathon in my trail shoes and I'm wondering if that is what caused my pain or if running with a slower person thus shortening my stride did it. I ran in my old street shoes this evening as I didn't want a repeat.

I decided this time not to elevate the treadmill incline over 4.5.  I wasn't ready to red line my heart this evening.  It was a good workout.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 23:36:24

I think I'd rather run hills in 19 degree weather than run on a treadmill with a 4.5 incline. I'm afraid of the incline button on the treadmill for some reason. So good for you for taking on that mean old treadmill.

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Nice and easy 7 miles.  As I was running I realized how much i've slacked these past 2 months with respect to running.  I think I've been on the pavement (or treadmill) just 2 times a week for a while. It's time to get back to training!

I've been wondering how much camping the night before a race will affect the outcome of the race.  There are a couple of upcoming races that start at camp grounds.  Paying $5 a night is so much less painful than the $75+ a night I've been paying for hotels.  This is a long shot, but has anyone done the camp/run thing and can give feedback?

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From Nevels on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 20:28:57

I almost did a year or so ago before the Arkansas Traveler, but my dad decided to flip the bill for a hotel, an offer I couldn't refuse. I do have some friends, though, who have done the whole camping thing the night before races and been fine. I think the key factor in camping is to make sure that you get enough to eat the night before and are comfortable enough to sleep well and not freeze to death the night before. If you decide to do it, let us know how it goes.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:05:27

You say you've been slacking these past 2 months, but I suspect your body needed a rest after all those miles you've been putting in.

Sorry, I can't give you any advice about the camping. I would just be worried about getting adequate sleep, but I have a hard time sleeping the night before a big race anyway.

From Deborah on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:29:40

Thanks. I'm still on the fence about camping. I think it's more due to the bugs than lack of sleep. (Geez, that sounds so girly).

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Easy lunch time miles.  Great day for a run... 52 degrees, overcast, misting on occasion. Sweet!

Now back to work.

 

 

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:29:34

52 degrees?! Wow. I envy you. That is perfect running weather.

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Easy and short long run

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Skipped watching the second half of super bowl to run. I got 4 miles in today running through my neighborhood. There weren't too many folks out this evening...go figure.

I signed up for a challenge of the miles this year with our local running group.  I need to do 100 miles a month. This should be simple but I'm already 14+ miles in the deficit from last month.  I have to admit that there must be an easier way to earn a $25 gift certificate from the local running store. :)

I just got my race info in from the Dances with Dirt - Green Swamp.  I'm actually looking forward to running in alligator infested waters.  For once, I'm NOT envious of the faster runners.  I like the idea of the gators being full before I make it to the crossing.

Have a great week!

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From rinny on Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 22:20:31

an alligator infested water run? scary!

kind of nice to have a quiet evening run.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 23:17:03

Alligators?! Really??

With the distances you run, 100 miles a month should be a piece of cake.

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Fun miles on a tread mill. I started feeling  a bit narcissistic as there are mirrors in front of the treadmill.  Actually, I was able to watch myself run and notice a few things I can improve on and  a couple of things I tried to change/improve on (like foot strike) that nearly caused my to fly off of the tread mill

The biggest thing I saw was the fact I don't pick my feet up much when I run.  This alone explains why I will eat dirt at least once on a trail run.  I wonder if the simple act of picking my feet up more would correlate to a different pace….faster/slower?  I’m going to guess faster.  In these cold months I think I’m going to spend more time indoors working on running the treadmill while bettering my form.

I’m being peer pressured into driving down to do the National Breast Cancer marathon (26.2 w/Donna) on 2/15.  It does sound like fun but I have reservations as I’m doing a marathon this weekend.  I don’t think I’ll have problems doing the races back to back but I wonder what the long term outcome will be.  The last thing I want is another stress fracture from too many miles.  Perhaps I’ll just join them but only run the half….or just wait for them at the finish line sucking down a margarita…..come to think of it…that last option sounds pretty  good.  :)

Finally, I followed one of the advertisement links from this site and had to share this

Credit: http://www.fargonegreetings.com/home.php

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 19:03:15

I'm glad you found something positive about treadmill running. The treadmill I run on occasionally faces a big window. If I'm there early in the morning when it's dark outside, the window acts as a mirror. But today I spent some time walking backwards on the treadmill and doing this I faced a mirror. It was kind of weird watching myself walk.

I would skip the marathon on 2/15 if I were you, but what do I know? I'm no ultra runner.

I enjoyed the cartoon.

From Nevels on Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 01:29:02

Usually I'm all for back to back long races, but running two road marathons in consecutive weekends could be a bit too much pounding for me. As a caveat, though, if you're doing what I tend to do and playing around with them (i.e. treating them more like training runs), then go for it!

All that being said, I like the margarita option most of all...

Race: Dances With Dirt - Green Swamp (26.2 Miles) 06:10:00
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OK, who knew it was so cold in FL in the mornings....brrrrr. I saw on the weather report that the daily high was going to be in the 70's so I was wearing shorts come race start....31 degrees.

The race has different routes for each of the different mileages.  At this race you could choose to be a half marathoner, a marathoner, or an ultra runner and choose either a 50K or 50 miles.  There was even a 50 mile relay as well.  We all start out (excluding the 50 milers who started earlier) doing a 5.25 mile loop which was some basic trail running.  Somewhere between mile 4 and 5 we have to do 2 river (stream) crossings.  The water is to far to jump so you just have to go in....it is now about 38-40 degrees.  It's not too bad as the water is only calf to knee deep.  A short while later we come to a barbed wire fence with a sign to let us know we need to climb under, through, or over it.

So we finish our loop around and start back to pass by the start/finish line which just happens to take us 10 feet from where my car is parked.  I had about a 30 second conversation with myself on whether or not I was going to change my socks to dry ones.  Easy choice.  So now I'm off and running with my dry non-squishing socks.

The next part of the race takes us into the swamp.  Its like a graveyard for saplings.  There are small thin trunks sticking out of the ground like spears waiting to impale you if you trip....everywhere!  So we move through this and do two more river crossings (much deeper water).  This time we are balancing our way across a log that has fallen over from one side of the bank to the other.  There is sludge and some muck in the water to soften the blow if you fall.

The race then turns off the trail and runs straight through the forest.  From here there are pink flags tied on tree limbs or anything else about every 20-30 feet to tell you where to go.  So off we go through the woods and briars following pink ribbons. Mental note, when running trail races wear tights or something to protect your legs.  I'm currently sporting razor blade size slashes from ankle to knee.

The rest of the race is more or less the same.  Sometimes we ran on a trail and sometimes we were following ribbons through woods.  Once the weather topped the 70 degree mark we were running in grass lands (no trees).  Whew, that was a bit warm.

Somewhere along the race, the half marathoners turn off and head back to the start/finish, the marathoners get to take a short cut so not to run the 50K distance, and I ***think *** the 50 miler folks are still out there somewhere. 

Somewhere in the last mile there is another trip through a river, back under the barbed wire, and finally the finish line is in sight.  The music is playing, and a wonderful buffet is awaiting.   BTW, the food was FANTASTIC! Best BBQ every.  (I’d might even say that even if I wasn’t starving).

What I've left out until now is the fact I got turned around and perhaps lost a time or two….or three.  I actually had a PW (personal worst) on any marathon to date.  That said, I took 2nd in my age group.  Woot! 

I've got to say this to date has been my favorite race.  It isn't often you get a chance to run through the woods and climb obstacles like a kid.  I loved every rough spot they threw at us and my only disappointment was that there weren’t more challenges.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 23:59:01

Wow! Great description. That was quite the race and you are truly an adventurer. I like my paved roads. Way to go!

From Nevels on Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:39:37

That sounded like it was an absolute blast. I'm jealous.

You know, if you liked the briars, lack of trail, and overwhelming obstacles, there's always Barkley...

From Deborah on Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 13:51:49

Nevels, I'd never thought about attempting to do a loop at Barkley until I saw it once on personal goals list. I remember thinking, "hey, now that DOES sound like fun". I'm going to have to put that on my bucket list.

From Nevels on Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 15:27:14

Yeah, completing Barkley might be a bit ambitious for me, but I have every intention of trying it out sometime. Who knows, maybe I'll be able to finish the 60-mile fun run some day. In any case, it sounds like an experience to be had, and if you like the kind of race that Dances with Dirt sounds like, Barkley might be right up your alley (in a weird, masochistic, ultra running kind of way)

From Burt on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 14:15:06

Weren't more challenges??!! Sounds like one crazy race. Great job!

From leslie on Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:56:00

I LOVED reading about your race. I have heard about it from the Ultrarunning Magazine. How fun!!! Way to go! It is so fun to not act our age!!! I just love it and am jealous of your great adventure. What is your next one Deb? I am looking forward to pacing Tarzan on her first 50 miler next month. The Buffalo Run on Antelope Island. I am not ready yet for a 50 miler, but hopefully by Dec. I will be ready to go!! Way to GO GIRL!!!!!

From Deborah on Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:52:35

Hi Leslie! You're going to be a pacer?! You better watch out....you'll find yourself wanting to do that 50 miler much sooner after that!! It is an amazing experience to be a participant and also being a pacer. Word of advice for you as a pace Tarzan....come loaded with corny jokes and awful stories. I'm not sure where you'll pick up Tarzan on her run but if it is at the end I can assure you distractions are welcomed! (At least they were for me). For example, Maria (my last pacer) tried really hard to sing the Copa Cabana for me in my last miles…but we didn’t know all the lyrics. Heck I only know the chorus. So she made words up as she went along. With no disrespect to her, she sings awful. I’ve got to say, that made it all the better.

I've got a few road races coming up next but what I'm really looking forward to doing is this one!! http://www.sweeth20races.com/ Check out the pictures of the water crossings...the descriptions states we get to do that twice!! Woot!!

From LESLIE on Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 13:09:14

Oh my goodness that looks crazy fun!! I am jealous! Thanks for the tips on pacing. I have paced in the Wasatch 100 so I am alittle familiar with it. Tarzan has some serious notes to give me from a running magazine, and I already told her I am collecting juicy stories and jokes to entertain her with. It should be a lot of fun!! Keep up the good work, I sure enjoy hearing all your stories!!!

Race: National Breast Cancer Marathon (13.1 Miles) 02:37:10
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So I went down to Jacksonville and did the half marathon.  This is such an amazing race for so many reasons. First, 100% of ALL of the entry fees go to Breast Cancer Research.  Everything at the race, shirts, drinks, post race beverages/food, port-o-potties, police/EMS help, and everything else that was race related was donated to this cause. 

The community really rallies behind this race and fan support is amazing. Besides cheering you on, there are of course a few young gentlemen offering to give free ta-ta exams....mmm, no thanks.

The race is mostly flat except an awful bridge you cross in the beginning...not so bad...and again upon finishing....pure torture.  The race even runs on the beach along side the ocean.  It was really nice hearing the ocean tides crashing on the shore while on this run.  I turned off early from the beach as I only did the half but I would imagine another few miles of that would have truly turned me into a Zen runner.  After the beach, you run down a road with lots of crowds cheering, back over the bridge (from hades) and finally you reach the finish line.

The race is amazingly organized and well done.  A few months ago I met Amanda (don't remember last name) who served on the board of directors for this race.  She mentioned to me that their first topic of conversation was always "are there enough port-o-potties?".  Well let me answer that for you....yes.  I think this race had 2-3 more water stops then most other races AND if they weren't handing out Gu every other water station, it sure seemed like it.

I can't say enough of what a great race this is.  If you have the opportunity you should give it a try.  Be warned however, you will use this race to measure all other future marathon/half marathons against....don't say I didn't warn you.

Side note: I got to run with the marathon front runners for about 3 seconds.....sure I was on mile 11 and they were on mile 24...minor details.  Sure most of those 3 seconds was me watching them disappear in front of me ...again minor details. You know it is one thing to see them running on TV like when it is televised as the Olympics were.  It is even more powerful to actually see them in action.  There are no words to describe it.

 

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From Burt on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:13:09

Sounds like a cool race. I hope those ta ta examiners were certified. ;)

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:26:22

That sounds like a really awesome race. Great job!

I enjoyed your description.

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 I couldn't resist passing this along.  I hope you enjoy as much as I did.  Todays miles are back on a tread mill.

Abbreviated Running Dictionary - For the remainder of the "Running Dictionary" visit http://www.garycohenrunning.com , click "All in a Day's Run" and then "Running Dictionary." 

Easy trails - Expect varied terrain including soft sand, uneven footing, large tree roots and loose rocks.   It is mandatory that you bring a first aid kit to care for your bloodied knees and hands from the many falls you will incur.   Wearing a bicycle helmet is not a bad idea.

Warm weather - Do you know how to say, “Record setting heat wave”?   If you run more than three miles, you are risking heat stroke, heat exhaustion and a trip to your nearest hospital.   Prepare for this possibility by having frequent water stops.   Or you can call 911, give them your planned running route and ask them to send an ambulance with two intravenous tubes in 30 minutes.

One short, steep climb after five miles - About halfway up this climb you swear that someone jumped on your back.   You want to cover your ears to avoid hearing the screams coming from your own quadriceps muscles.   Despite your slow pace, you pass runners who have been reduced to jogging, walking and crawling.   Several are laying on the side of the road writhing in agony.   Finally, if you were able to speak, you would ask yourself, “What am I doing here?”

A festive and fun race -   Watch out at the start to avoid tripping over small children who lined up in the front row.    Next you dodge several competitors, or should I say, participants dressed in costumes as their favorite super hero.   Suddenly your ears are assaulted by a rapid fire pop-pop-pop and you duck for cover assuming it is a terrorist attack.    After you take your handy nitroglycerin pill and calm yourself upon learning it was only the sound of firecrackers, you are back on the roads and running toward the finish.   Your hopes for a fast time are dashed by the open drawbridge allowing a boat parade held in conjunction with the race to pass by.   At least you are excited about the scheduled jugglers, moon walk and horse rides that will entertain your children after the race.   Unfortunately, due to budget constraints, all entertainment had to be cancelled.

Moderate altitude training - You better find a Sherpa guide to help you up this treacherous climb at altitudes you thought were reserved for air traffic only.   You will be gasping for air as your lungs beg for precious oxygen.   Afterward, you may want to compare notes with Sir Edmund Hillary as it will feel tougher than the last 200 feet climb to the summit of Mount Everest.

Slight winds - Prepare to lean forward with your head down as you pour every ounce of energy into attempting to run.   You may be slammed backward into the runner directly behind you.   You may be lifted completely off of the ground.   If the winds are cross winds and you are on a narrow path, you will be blown off the path.  Most likely you will find yourself in the center of a level five hurricane or tornado.

Adequate rest room facilities -   When you get to the race there will be several thousand runners and fifteen portable toilets.   You can wait in line for an hour, go into a foul smelling port-o-let, wipe urine off the seat, have the door which does not lock opened by another runner (“Oops, I’m sorry”) and, after you are finished taking care of business, notice that there is no toilet tissue.   As an alternative, before you leave the house you can stock up on plenty of toilet paper and go behind the third bush on the left. 

Scenic course - You pass the county landfill where the loud buzzing sound is from massive swarms of flies.   After navigating broken bottles and litter you notice graffiti with various expletives on buildings and bridges.  A bridge traverses shallow green-brown water strewn with old tires, abandoned appliances and trash.   Several homeless men ask for a dollar or a beer.   Before finishing the run you are treated to the highlight of the course - a stretch which passes by a beautiful toxic waste dump.

Gentle, rolling hills - Be prepared for non-stop nose bleed climbs followed by shin-ravaging down hills.   The uphill stretches will make ‘Heartbreak Hill’ at the Boston Marathon seem like a small bump in the road.   The down hill segments will be similar to a triple black diamond ski run.

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From Nevels on Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 15:29:20

Sign me up for the easy trails with gentle, rolling hills at altitude in the heat, with, perhaps, one short, steep climb after, say, five miles...

From Gary Cohen on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50:41

I hope everyone enjoys the Running Dictionary that was posted here. For a slew of great essays and interviews with Brian Sell, Greg Meyer, Jenny barringer, please check out my website.

From Maurine/Tarzan on Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 19:41:37

Oh man - I had to laugh. These descriptions are just so true to some that I have experienced.

Race: Al Toll 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:45:00
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My kids did their first 5K today.  Well, let me say, my daughter (6 years) did her first 5K today.  My son (4 years) got carried a quarter of his first 5K today.  Our friends (who are super fast yearly Boston Qualifiers) have a daughter that is 5 years old.  She and her dad were doing the 5K and agreed to let Madison come along with them while I took Noah (a bit slower) on the race.  The race was an out and back and Madison passed us about a quarter of a mile from the turn around point....so it's safe to say she was nearly 1/2 mile in front by the middle of the race.  After that I had to hear about her finish.  She did a walk/run with David and Sophie....until the end.  She rounded the corner and took off.  She found her mark (fellow competitor) and wanted to beat him across the finish line.  See picture below.

Then she made her move.....

So as you can see, the goal to beat senior citzens has been passed down from granny tripping mom to gramps passing daughter. I'm so proud.

As for my son, well, he did finish the last .1 mile on his own feet (and not my back).  This is him running all he can so mom won't finish before him.  He has earned a club nick-name at this race....Backpack. 

Final results: Noah took 1st in Boys under 10; Madison took 3rd in girls under 10; Mom took home a kink in her back. 

 

UPDATE: Race results finally posted....Madison: 38:44, Noah 51:10

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From Burt on Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 23:04:27

So cool. Love the report.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:58:05

That's so great that you're getting your kids to run. I love the pictures, especially the one where both of your daughter's feet are off the ground. I need to find a way to get my kids to run.

From jun on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:48:44

Hahahaha. Cutest thing ever.

Way to go mom. You win a date with the chiropractor and a 1 hour massage.

From Lucia on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 13:53:36

How cool are you guys!!! Loved this posting, congrats, your kids are going to be stud runners!

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Lots of fun on the tread mill this evening.  As I read the different blogs on this site I realize how spoiled I've been this winter. I ran on a tread mill tonight because 44 degrees was too chilly for me to take it outside.  Since I know you folks in CO, UT, and anywhere else have it so much colder you can feel free to boo me.  :)

I'm quickly becoming adept at amusing myself for an hour at a time on the treadmill.  Of course the 8 televisions in front of me help some as well as the mirror displaying my awful stride as well.  I noticed last night that I run like a girl.  (Gasp)  My back foot kicks back and to the side as I run ... very similar to a dainty little girl being forced to run. 

Geez, I will be thinking about this the next time I go on my group run.  As often as we razz one another about everything on our long runs I have no clue how this has escaped the radar.  We are doing the Snickers Marathon together in just under 2 weeks.  I think I'll have to bring this most embarrassing bit of info to light around mile 18 or so when we need a bit of distraction.  What better way to push through discomfort than to laugh with friends.

Well folks, I'm going to force a couple more pictures of my kids on you.  I just got these earlier in the day.  These were taken on race day last weekend. The first is my daughter about 15 seconds before she made her move on the older gentleman.   

This next one is my son displaying his amazing abaility to levitate.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 09:30:33 from 67.177.240.240

Okay, I'll take the bait and mock you for running inside because 44 is too cold. 44 is positively balmy.

So you run like a girl. You are a girl.

Your kids are darling.

From Snoqualmie on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:04:33 from 67.171.56.164

Lovely children!! If you'd like to work on your form, I recommend Thomas Miller's "Programmed to Run."

From Deborah on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:26:41 from 68.98.198.29

I will look into the book. Anything that helps with running efficiency and improvement is worth a read.

Actually, I don't mind looking "girly" when I run...it's just that I've never noticed that before. It just struck me as funny last night when I noticed. So much so that I'll share the laugh with my friends when we need it at the end of a race when strength and perseverance are low.

From Nevels on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 15:17:32 from 131.204.15.93

I feel your pain on the cold weather. I've put in some pretty cold runs (once it gets below 15F or so, I'm done), but every now and then I have a "Southerner moment" and hit the treadmill because 40 is just too stinking cold.

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The weather is a beautiful 51 this morning, slight breeze, no clouds.  It is a GREAT day for a training run.

I had a fun run on a trail this morning with my former personal trainer. She is 12 years my junior and working out with her is always a treat.  We had a fantastic workout (both legs and mouth).  I often wonder when we train together what gets a faster work out....my legs or my lips. :)

Happy running folks!

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:01:13 from 71.229.164.25

Sounds like a great run. Nothing passes the time as pleasantly as having some one fun to talk with while you run. I might get to run with a friend this weekend, but it's looking a litte iffy at this point.

From leslie on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 12:28:39 from 76.23.61.78

I am glad you got to run with a friend!!! Have a wonderful day!

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Shoot, I'm nearly a week behind on posting my mileage.  This post is the only place I can keep myself accountable so I need to do a better job keeping it up to date.

Only did a quick 5 miles (maybe a smidge less).  I was volunteering at a local race and needed to cut the run short.

The race itself was amazing.  It was the 1st annual 5K put on by a local wellness center.  There were 1250+ folks preregistered and a few more on race day.  This is a small town (50K folk) so we never see races this size.  Anyway, the RD put decent cash prizes out and we got some Kenyans from Atlanta to come down.  I worked the finish line and had the fun to see them finish a 5K seconds over the 15 min mark....wow!  What is even more impressive was the 1st place female to cross the line....a local 13 year old girl with a finish time of 18:02.  As I watch her finish races (and win) time and time again I can't help but wonder if I'm watching a future olympic gold medalist.

Becuase I love to add pictures I'll add this one of the top finishers, including Grace.

 

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Was a slacker and just did 3 miles.  I really need to head out the door before 9PM.  Actually, I really should become an early morning runner.....that's going to be hard.

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From leslie on Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:33:36 from 76.23.61.78

I think running in the evening would be harder, if I don't get my run in before my head turns on it doesn't happen. I had wimpy miles today too. Have a great day, oh, I just noticed this entry is from yesterday. Oh, well, still have a nice day today!!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:15:22 from 71.229.164.25

I think that running in the morning works better for some people and running mid-day or evening works better for others. You just have to find what works for you. For me, I also have to do it first thing in the morning or too many other things just get in the way.

From Nevels on Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:14:30 from 131.204.15.93

Is it still safe to run in Georgia...?

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Yikes! I can't believe I've gone this long without writing in my blog. I did the Snickers marathon earlier in March which is in Albany, GA. It is a GREAT marathon. The town support is amazing. The race itself goes in and out of beatuiful neighborhoods...which was nice as it got very warm and the shade was a blessed relief.

I picked up a Garmin 405 with heart rate monitor. I've since noticed that I've done a great job training my legs but not my heart. How is that possible? Anyway, I've noticed that I hit near max HR without a whole lot of effort. So for the next month or two I'm focusing my training runs on my improving my HR. It's been nearly 2.5 weeks with no results....yes, I do know it'll take some more time...knowing that doesn't make the wanting to see results go away.

I've kicked off the training for my 100 mile race at Snickers. However, since then my long runs have been pitiful. Not what I was expecting. I scheduled a long run last Saturday and got nearly 4 miles into it before the lightning came. I might be crazy at times but not nuts enough to finish up my long run. Sadly, I was unable to reschedule or finish that long run....family obligations. So I'll have to do those miles this Sat instead.

My next race is a 34 mile trail race early May. As mentioned before, this will be my first attempt at camping before a run. I'm both excited and nervous about that. As for the 34 mile race I think I'm going to have to bump up my weekly long runs by 5 miles each week...15 miles, 20 miles, 25 miles, 10 miles, race weekend (34 miles). I had originally requested to the RD permission to do a 50 mile run that day....I'm not sure I want to do that now. I've got some friends coming up to run as well and I'd rather spend the extra time with them. Yes, I do know the 10% rule when it comes to long runs. I've already have the base to do the above mileage so I don't think I'll run into overuse injuries. I will however listen very closely to my body. OK, that's really all that has been going on this month.

For any of you close to GA (Nevels) there are some good races coming up later this spring that I wanted to share with you:

May 16 -Darkside 8-Hour Run, Peachtree City, GA - only $10...what a bargin http://darksiderunningclub.com/2009Darkside8Hour.pdf

May 30 - SweetH20 50K - you will get wet and punished on this race...sweet! http://www.sweeth20races.com/

July 25 - Make it By Midnight Marathon Macon, GA - Hot, Hilly, Humid, and lots of personality

http://www.macontracks.org/race-pdfs/2009-07-25-MakeItByMidnight.pdf

 

Addition:  What the heck do they put into Girl Scout Cookies that makes them so darned addictive??

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From snoqualmie on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 10:43:09 from 67.171.56.164

Welcome back! So, you've been running but just not blogging? Good luck with all your training plans. And just for the record (because there is a lot of scary advice to the contrary), I have bumped up my mileage faster than 10% many times and have never been injured. I believe the key is pace and walk breaks. If you mix in some walking during the increase period you can spend a lot longer on your feet without harm. Then you can eliminate the walking when your body tells you it's happy with the distance. Just my 2c. :)

From Nevels on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:19:06 from 131.204.15.93

Good to see you back.

I was already planning on running the Sweet H2O 50k, and the Darkside 8-hour is tempting; thanks for the links, and good luck upping the long runs. While preparing for Pinhoti last fall, I managed to up mine relatively quickly (about the same rate you're planning) to no ill effect, so given your preexisting base, you should be fine.

By the way, do you run with the GUTS folks that show up at all of the races over here? They seem to be a great (if not somewhat eccentric) group of people, and I always enjoy seeing them at races.

From Deborah on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:25:19 from 68.98.198.29

I've not run with the GUTS (they run about 2 hours north of here). I've met a few and will agree with your observation of the personalities being pleasantly eccentric.

Well, since you are much faster than I make sure to save me a beer at the SweetH20 race. :)

From leslie on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:24:27 from 76.23.61.78

I had so much fun reading your entry, I need to keep closer tabs on you!! I love your enthusiasm!!

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Nice evening run in the rain.  I'm not sure if it is dedication, determination, or delirium that made me go out tonight.  It's been raining for nearly 4 days straight.  Can any of you folks in Internet land tell me how many feet is 300 cubits? I think it might be time to think about arks.

So, I've got my new Garmin that is able to tell me to the 100th of a mile minus the error of standard deviation....OK, I confess, I'm a math geek.  Anyway, I'm still pretty excited over my new piece of equipment. 

The president of our local running club is helping me with my training and my accountability.  I have to run within my "acceptable" heart rate (155-160 BPM for easy runs) AND show negative splits on each training run (for my easy runs).  He believes all runs should have a purpose otherwise you are just putting in junk miles.  He is a tough one but he does it with such humility that I want to make each run count.  I think he's really going to be a huge help in my training.  I'm very blessed to be surrounded by such nice folks.

Sam’s other rule besides making every run count....only 1 day off between runs.  OK, I've had to break that rule once so far due to family obligations.  I sent my running log to the prez and that was picked up immediately.  Soooooo you can believe I'll be blogging much much much more often.

Run dry folks!

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From snoqualmie on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 22:56:18 from 67.171.56.164

We all keep arks in our garages where I live. (35 inches in my town this year so far, and it's coming down even now...)

Congratulations on the Garmin! Like JD said earlier this week on my blog, we like them so much we're having them surgically embedded in our arms. lol

Very exciting to have some expert guidance there. I second his advice to minimize days off, though I'm actually with Sasha on the 6 days per week viewpoint. But I don't believe in "junk miles." All my miles at least have the purpose of: "Man, I love doing this!" :D

From leslie on Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 13:48:08 from 76.23.61.78

Thanks for the comment on my blog, I was thinking it would be so awesome to live next door to you and have another fun running buddy, with a similiar pace and similiar goals, I would even risk the thought of being tripped!!!

The light just turned on in my little head about junk miles, thru the winter I put in way to many zombie miles, just getting them in, so my new focus is to give it alittle push, not enough to kill me, just kick it up a notch and put in a little more effort.

I am envious of your running club and having someone to take you under their wing. I will be watching for your entries.

Did you tell me about a book on eating healthy afew weeks ago, I thought it was Sno, but the title she emailed me back didn't register, it may have been you? I am trying a new approach and trying not to weigh myself daily and eat right and see if I can lose weight without all the negative feelings I get from the scale.

Have a great day Deb!

From Deborah on Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:10:09 from 68.98.198.29

Nope, the book on healthy eating wasn't a suggestion by me BUT if you get the name of it I'd like to check it out. I think my performance would be better if I actually watched what I put into my mouth. (Today I watched 7 Girl Scout Somoa cookies go into my mouth....mmmm).

When is the Ogden Valley 50 miler you are training for?

I too need to step the training up a notch as well...

step 1: run 4-5 days a week consistently instead of 3-4 (mostly 3) days a week.

I'll let you know what step #2 will be in another week or two when I feel like I finally got #1 mastered.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 14:51:15 from 198.241.217.15

I'm glad you're going to be blogging more. I had wondered what happened to you. I'm glad to hear that you were running, but you've got to blog it or we don't know!

That's great that you've hooked up with your local running club. I should maybe do that.

I'm also with Sasha on the 6 days/week running, but if you're currently doing 3 days/week, you should jump right up to 6. You've got to increase your days/week gradually, just like anything else.

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Great morning run with my buddies this morning. I love the fact that the topic of conversation will range the enitre gambit of topics.

I don't know if all of you with Garmins know about the FREE software SportTracks but it helps me crunch my data AND makes cool graphs like this:

This graphs shows the average pace for each half mile.  We stopped for water breaks which is why there are a couple of spikes in the middle of the graph.  My buddies quit on me with one mile to go.  I didn't think I had slowed my pace down when they left but as you can see....I slacked.

In a nutshell, average pace for this run was 12:23.  Average HR was 160.  Calories burned: 1431.  Obviously it's time to eat a Dunkin Donut now. :)

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:42:43 from 71.229.164.25

It looks like you had a general increase in pace over the course of the run. Good job! Have a donut for me.

From Nevels on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:41:51 from 131.204.15.93

I know it's a little off-topic, but what type of trail shoes (if any) do you use? I've been contemplating trail footwear all morning (more, I think, as an excuse not to think about finite element analysis and fracture mechanics than anything), and I'm curious what others are using for the slanted, rocky, rooty, leaf-covered trails we tend to have in the South. For what it's worth, I'm becoming more and more enamored with Inov-8's

From Deborah on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 14:08:24 from 68.98.198.29

I've only been running in the Asics 2130 trail shoes. The trails I run are very easy and well maintained and I don't need anything more hard core...yet. I've been told the heartland 100 is mostly on a gravel road with big gravel pieces (like the side of a Rail road). My friend who ran this race suggested I purchase Montrail Hardrock. I've not done that yet.

If you find a pair of trail shoes you like please give me you feed back on them

From Nevels on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 15:35:45 from 131.204.15.93

I am incredibly pleased with my Inov-8 Roclite 295's and Flyroc's right now, and I've put the Flyroc's through some pretty rough trails; the Roclites are pretty new, so all I've had a chance to run with them are some pretty easy trails. The one downside common to both styles of Inov8's is that if you want to roll your ankle over, they will let you, so if you're prone to having weak ankles, you might want to have another pair for backup (although they do keep your heels relatively low and are a great way to improve ankle strength)

On the other hand, I have had a couple of pairs of Montrails, the Odyssey and the Nitrus, both of which are like body armor for your feet. The down side to both is that they are kind of clunky. That being said, I loved my Odysseys; they provided a nice, roomy toe box and a decent amount of cushioning, but they have been discontinued by Montrail, and I haven't found another pair of Montrails that can compare, although I will give the Nitrus its due; I made it all the way through the Pinhoti 100 in the Nitrus without ever having to change shoes or socks.

My limited trail shoe knowledge...

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58 degrees and 29 MPH winds....feels much colder than 58 degrees.

No negative split today.  It's hard when you live at the top of the hill and maintain a slow pace on the way down and pick it up on the way back....well, I guess I'm only making excuses for my failed negative split.  I should have stayed super conservative from the start.  Todays stats:

4 miles @ 11:57 min mile pace, average HR = 165.

Then I did something different....

4 x 30 second striders after the run pace: 6:31, 5:49, 5:51, 5:36 min miles respectfully.  HR ranged from 142-157 on these.  (Garmins are so nifty!)

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:19:00 from 71.229.164.25

That's a big pace difference between your average pace and your pace on the striders. You can go fast when you want to.

From Deborah on Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:29:23 from 68.98.198.29

Thanks for that comment. I thought I was gonna die before each of the the 30 seconds were up. I'm sure striders don't mean run as fast as you can.

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Very short run today - 3.34 miles.    Average pace 11:52....negative spit accomplished...Woot!

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From Nevels on Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:14:37 from 131.204.15.93

Negative splits = awesome

I have a trail that I've been trying to run a couple of times per week. It's a relatively easy trail with some good, runnable, rolling hills, and constitutes a great out-and-back run for a solid 9 miler, and I've recently been trying to negative split it. All I can say is that you (or at least I) win some; you (I) lose some...

From leslie on Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:54:54 from 76.23.61.78

Yeah for you! Negative splits are awesome! We do seem to have the same pace, I did a 11:15 this morning, I am off to do another short run, our weather is great today, but another storm is supposed to be rolling in this afternoon.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 17:15:57 from 198.241.217.15

Congratulations on the negative split! Woot woot!

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Today I broke the Prez's rule of training....do not go more than one day in between runs....just couldn't make it out today

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I went out to the track with the kids today.  They played in the long jump sand as I ran circles around them.  I don't know why but I had an awful run today.  I've not even downloaded my data to see exactly HOW bad it was....I'll wait until after the long run tomorrow to do that.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 13:12:23 from 71.229.164.25

That's a great way to get a run in while keeping an eye on the kids. I'm sorry it was such an awful run. I hope you feel better today.

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Started off at 6AM with my 67 year old training partner. One day I think I'll improve enough to run with someone in their 50's and only 20 years older than myself. It was GREAT running weather - cool and crisp. I've got to admit, before he showed up I was hoping he had slept in so I could cancel the run. This has been a horrible week of running and I was NOT looking forward to how badly this run could be....he showed up 5 min late...dang.

Anyway, we did have a very good run which surprised both me and my partner. (Apparently he was having a bad week as well). He ran 14 miles with me (chart below). Once we parted ways I drove to the base to finish up my mileage. Of course after 30 min of not running my body did NOT want to start up again. I shorted myself 3 miles today. My last solo miles weren't as good as below. Apparently I'm a social runner.

I hope y'all had good runs this weekend as well. 

 

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:21:17 from 71.229.164.25

If I'm reading the chart right, you had a consistent increase in pace throughout the run. Good job!

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4 easy super slow miles tonight.  12:18 pace.

I was incredibly distracted today. I start a new job this week and I'm incredibly nervous.  I had an awful week last week as my job of the last 6 years was going away....product of the recent economy.  I'm only moderately qualified for this new job at best.  It is hard going from being the "go-to" person that knew how to do their job and did it well to knowing absolutely nothing and having to fake it for the next few weeks. 

It's also hard going from part-time telecommuter to full time sit in a cubical all day....yuck!

Wish me luck.

 

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:29:01 from 71.229.164.25

Good luck with the new job. I'm a full-time cubicle dweller, though I do get to telecommute from time to time. Let us know how it goes.

From Nevels on Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:24:50 from 131.204.15.93

Good luck with the new job. I feel your pain; my office is a windowless small basement room that I share with a Korean post-doc.

and "super slow" is a relative term, and given the context of you as an ultrarunner, it does not apply to you...

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I've been a part time employee for the past 4 years.  I have the utmost respect for everyone who has done their training, worked full time, have small kids and a spouse. 

New job going well...I have no computer at the moment so I printed out some of the job requirements so that I'd have something to read until my machine comes in and my network account cleared. It has been a long day trying to look busy. 

My run went well...must have been the pent up energy.  I averaged 11:49 min mile.  I see I'm decreasing 5 seconds per mile every other week.  I think if I keep this up, I'll qualify for boston in about 60 years....lucky for me that isn't my goal.

I hope you all are having good runs as well.

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From Nevels on Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:09:18 from 131.204.15.93

if you hold that pace, you would finish in the top 5% at Western...

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:57:00 from 198.241.217.15

I know what you mean about trying to look busy while you wait for a computer and network access at a new job. Good luck with the new job. I hope you enjoy it.

Training, working full time, with kids and a spouse is certainly hard. I guess I'm able to do it only because my kids aren't so little any more and my work is fairly flexible.

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Headed out the door at 5:30 this morning...no friends, no iPod.  What a difference.  What is it about an iPod that robs you of your senses when you run.  My neighborhood smells GREAT right now.  I had no clue.  It was too dark this morning to see (actually look around) the yards, homes, etc that I've been missing.

My pace was slower than normal.  I wonder if that was because it was so darned early or the fact I was looking at things I've never paid attention to before.  I'll give the morning routine one more try before I decide I'm a night runner instead.  I'm so accustomed to running in the evening that my mind wants to go out again (habit) even though it's been 12 hours since my last run.

Well, if I do actually make it out tomorrow AM and then to my race on Sat I will have completed my first week containing 5 runs.  That is a very satisfying feeling.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 18:34:25 from 198.241.217.15

I've never been an evening runner. If I don't do it in the morning, life gets in the way and it doesn't get done.

I've also never considered myself a morning person, but I do manage to get myself up early to run. You can train yourself to do it if you want to. Do morning runs work out better with your work schedule?

From Deborah on Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 18:50:23 from 68.98.198.29

I think the early morning runs would fit the schedule better. The family didn't even miss me while I was gone.

:)

From leslie on Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 00:17:20 from 76.23.61.78

I agree with Carolyn, if I don't get my run in early before my brain turns on, it doesn't happen. Guess we are all different. So what race is it you have tomorrow? Best of luck to you!!!

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The Granite Grinder Half marathon. I forgot what a tough little race this was.  Amazing how your brain can do that to you.  I ate a HUGE piece of humble pie today.  The race takes place on the same course as the 1996 Olympic mountain  bike course.  The first part of the race isn't too bad...some ups and downs, a bit technical at times but nothing to complain about.....then comes the second half.  The race is called granite grinder because you run a while on a huge slab of granite that is pitted, slanted, and  at times steep.  Then the fun really begins.  The second half of the race is a bit more technical and has a few more hills (larger and steeper).  I recognized the one particular hill from last year that almost made me cry as I was standing at the bottom of it looking up...this year I only let out a small whimper as I started my ascent.  bottom line, I took 21 minutes off my time last year.  Next year I plan on being in even better shape and taking another 10 min or so off.  Please note that no time is being shown as I'm too embarrassed to admit to the painful pitiful finishing time.

Still I had forgotten until mile 12 my secrete pick me upper at times when I was feeling as down as I was.....the simple thought....there is beer at the end.   This time it was true...most times it is not.  Its sad when you know you are lying to yourself but you believe it anyway just to feel better.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 22:59:45 from 71.229.164.25

21 minutes off of your previous time! Amazing! Congratulations!

That sounds like a really tough course. You are one brave soul.

From leslie on Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 14:18:37 from 76.23.61.78

Sounds like it was a real grunter! I say, good job for doing it and to heck with the time!!!

I just ran a very slow 13 miler this morning and am also not posting my time. I want to focus on the good part, the miles covered rather than my pathetic time. We still Rock!!

From Nevels on Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 17:14:22 from 131.204.15.93

the rewards (i.e. ...um...libations) after trail runs are so much better than most road runs...

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I love asphalt! I took off on an easy pace tonight and it was so enjoyable after yesterday's race.  I really did have a good time yesterday but I was most definitely humbled.

The good thing about yesterday....the hill I have always struggled with in my neighborhood was nothing.  Yep, that's right, nothing.  Before I've had to psych myself up this one 0.4 mile steep incline.  Today I ran up it like it wasn't there.  I might have eaten humble pie yesterday but that little race gave me confidence in my run today.

 

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 23:00:23 from 71.229.164.25

I'm glad that race gave you some confidence. Way to conquer the hills.

From Nevels on Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 17:15:14 from 131.204.15.93

Out and running the day after a tough race...you got me beat.

From leslie on Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 17:36:08 from 76.23.61.78

Maybe that's what I need, a tough trail to make me stronger! Good job getting out so soon after a race!

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It's another night run (actually report being written the next day).  Being a female runner has some draw backs....like the repeated advice to vary your running times, routes, etc.  So instead of running an hour on the same streets I normally run I took it to the tread mill.

This is suppose to be an easy run (HR under 165) so I decided some Pink Floyd should do the trick.  Let me tell you, the urge to crank it up is greatly reduced when listening to comfortably numb.

I ended up with a faster finish time than normal.  For some reason tread mill running is a faster pace for me. Sweet. 

I finished up around 10:15 came home, showered, and had a GREAT night sleep.  I might have to try that again this evening....which will be tomorrow's entry written on Thursday.  :)

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From Nevels on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 01:32:24 from 75.143.70.65

Come on, now.

I hear you're feeling down.

Well I can ease your pain,

Get you on your feet again.

what you want to hear at every ultra aid station.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:51:49 from 198.241.156.7

My husband is more of a Pink Floyd fan than I am.

I'm glad you found some comfort in the treadmill.

I sometimes worry that I'm not varying my routes enough, but oh well.

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As you can see by no entry yesterday I got distracted and missed my run.  Actually the kids and I spent the evening catching tadpoles.  Won't do much for my 100 miler BUT perhaps the kids will look back and remember mom got ankle deep in stinky mud with them when they were younger.

My HR monitor didn't seem to work so well today.  I was busting bum at times and the thing never registered higher than 120 BPM.  On the positive side, that's the fasted I've gone for 5 miles in a long time.  I should hope my HR monitor fritzes out more often. :)

I"m taking the kids on their second 5K this weekend.  I'm threatening my 4 (almost 5) year old that he'll actually have to do the whole race on his own feet.  Yeah, I'm gonna hold my breath for that one.

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From Nevels on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 23:40:30 from 131.204.15.93

Just my $0.02:

When doing the really long runs getting ready for the 100, I'd go without the HR monitor and run completely by feel and perceived exertion. The HR monitor can give somewhat skewed feedback concerning your actual effort, and during the long runs you need to know what various paces/exertions feel like. Again, just my humble opinion.

Oh, and good luck with the kids at the 5k this weekend!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 13:08:17 from 71.229.164.25

You're a good mom.

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The first 3.1 miles were this morning where I once again muled my 4 y/o on his 2nd 5K. I brought a running buddy with me to run with my (7 today) year old daughter so she could go on ahead of us. She took 2nd in her age group....yippee. There was even more than 2 people in that division. (I'm so proud). The boy and I finally saw the finish line around the hour mark...no kidding. Carrying around and extra 42 lbs those 3 miles really made me realize the effort put in by folks with a heavy frame. I was once 25 lbs heavier than now and I remember how hard it was to start running. I'm really so proud of all those who were bigger than I crossing that starting (and finish) line for the first time. Some folks took pictures of my daughter crossing the finish line and another took a pic of my son hitching a ride. I'll post them when I get them.

The other 4.04 miles were put in this evening. I really didn't feel like going out after 9PM tonight but I need to stay consistent if I'm going to make it to my goal. I still need to squeeze in a long run...perhaps I can get up early tomorrow and do that before church.

BTW, if an entry actually is posted about an early morning run know that it was/is a miracle.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 13:00:05 from 198.241.156.7

I'm really impressed with the way you're getting your kids involved in running.

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OK, as I was running (in the evening) I had to laugh at my previous post.  I'm not sure why I thought I'd make it up in time for a long run before church.  Especially after I grabbed a beer and watched the last half of Shawshank Redemption and hit the rack around 11:30.

So, I did 10 miles this evening.  It's been a very long time since I've done a long run solo. Whew, it didn't kill me.  Actually, it was kinda nice.  I don't think I'd like to do it every weekend but it was nice to set my own pace and go.  I've managed to knock about 20 seconds per mile off of my last group run.  (About 2 min per mile from the half marathon last week...sheesh!)

This will be an  easy week coming up.  I've got an ultra this weekend and I'm so stoked about it! I can't wait  to share it with y'all

Below are pictures from the 5K.  The lady in the black next to my daughter (in the orange skirt) was my dear friend who threw the race so Madi could have an adult close by at all times....what a good friend. 

 

The other picture is my son and his ride.

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From Nevels on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:50:15 from 131.204.15.93

Are you running Strolling Jim this weekend?

And while I'm at it, are you running SweetH20 and that track 8-hr?

From Deborah on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:19:40 from 129.54.8.46

Running Buncombe 34 mile in SC this weekend. I'm signed up for both the 8 hour and the SweetH20. I'll be at the sweetH20 but not sure about the 8 hour...having problem with kid coverage.

Have you done Strolling Jim? Can you give some feedback?

From Nevels on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:24:13 from 131.204.15.93

I have not done Strolling Jim yet, and unfortunately it falls on an incredibly inconvenient weekend this year, so I won't be there this weekend, but I've got several friends who have done it and swear by it. To be honest, the thought of 40+ miles on the road does not sound too appealing, but everyone I've talked to says that they had a blast, and if you ever want to know what ultrarunning was 20 or 30 years ago, run the Strolling Jim.

I think I'll be at SweetH20, and I'm deciding on whether or not to anesthetize my brain with the 8-hr.

Good luck this weekend in SC...

From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 14:59:52 from 198.241.156.7

You ultramarathoner people are crazy. In a good way, I suppose.

Thanks for posting the pictures! They're great.

BTW, I love The Shawshank Redemption. One of my all-time favorite movies.

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Great run.  I've been running in my trail shoes the last couple of runs and have developed a blister on the arch of my foot.  Ouch.  It's on the sweet meat.  Give me a blister any where else please!

My average pace tonight was 11:27 w/HR of 161.  I think I'm finally starting to improve.  Yippee!

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 14:19:59 from 71.229.164.25

Blister, blister, go away.

Congratulations on your improvement!

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OK, I feel lame.  I only did 2.5 miles.  Actually it was a bit less but I'm gonna round up.  I did however average a 10:30 min mile....but I'll save the celebration for when I average that pace on a distance further than this.

You know, if it is not Sat I can not get my lazy bum out of bed for a run.  I went to bed early last night, set out my shoes, watch, reflective belt, iPod, etc.  I had all intentions of waking up and running at 5AM.  Instead I get up around 3AM, do some bathroom business, turn off my alarm and go back to bed. 

I didn't hit the road tonight until 9:30 PM.  I was pooped.  I probably wouldn't have gone out except Prez will be looking at my training log to ensure I don't go more than 1 day between runs.  I will get some razzing for the whopping 26ish minutes of running.

I will however be taking the next two days off.  Call it my taper before the race on Sunday.  I'm not worried about finishing 34 miles...I'll get there eventually.  However, a friend will be there and I have to look strong as I run the race....even if it kills me.  Dang Pride.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Fri, May 01, 2009 at 13:58:35 from 198.241.156.7

Good luck on your race! I really have no idea how you cover those distances.

From Deborah on Fri, May 01, 2009 at 15:21:41 from 129.54.8.46

One aid station at a time....

From Kelli on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 01:13:06 from 71.219.95.5

GOOD LUCK!!!!!

That is funny what you say about pride, I seem to have the same problem. No matter how hard we TRY to not have that little competitive edge, it rears its ugly head!

Race: Boncombe Trail 34 mile 10:09:40
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OK, for starters you will see I did a few extra miles for this 34 mile race.  Mostly because unless a course is marked to a level that a 6 year old can follow I will get lost.  Of course it would have helped if I had actually listened to the pre-race directions. 

This is a really nice and not very technical trail run.  We ran on just about every type of ground their is, single track, double track, gravel road, briefly on asphalt when road crossing, chewed up horse trails, stream crossings, well you get the point.  The cool things about this race:

-No time limit and no fee.  Donations only.

-GREAT aid stations with lots of food and wonderful volunteers

-RD's son in law is cook and made a nice spread for post-race food

-As usual for every ultra I've attended there were encouraging, upbeat and friendly race participants.

I'm really not giving this race enough of a write up as it deserves but I'll have to leave that for another runner's blog somewhere on the internet...they will do a better job of it.

I really liked the race but I was just glad to have found finish line and called it a day.

Terry has 3 more races in her race series this year.  They all have no time limit and make for a great first ultra.  You can find her other races here: http://ultrasontrails.com/

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From Kelli on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:01:19 from 71.219.98.156

WOW!!! great job. Sorry you got lost and added 7 miles---that is a lot! Did other people get lost with you? Goodness, and you did not even complain about the extra miles.

Man, you are a true runner. Those miles amaze me!

From Deborah on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:24:22 from 68.98.198.29

Thanks for the kind words Kelli!

I had a very good friend with me getting lost all those miles. He’s running the Heartland 100 with me in Oct. (sucka) This was more of a practice run of how we pace together.

I always get lost so I expected some extra miles. The extra miles really didn't matter until the end when you are hot, tired, and 2 or 3 miles from the end. All I kept thinking was, "man, I could be done by now".

From Kelli on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:28:35 from 71.219.98.88

That is what I think in every race about the fast people---they are done and I am not!!!

So, you are doing a 100 miler??? Have you done that much before, I can not remember?

From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:22:41 from 198.241.156.7

I am constantly amazed by the distances you run. Great job!

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Today's run was suppose to be at marathon pace according to the Prez who will now be refered to as RC (running coach). Alas, I started my run too fast so I made the choice to ensure a negative split rather than slow down to a marathon pace and finish. (It was also 9:45 at night and I wanted to come home). So I did a 5K. It's not my best but it's better than my normal training runs. Average pace 10:13. Average HR 158. Compare that to 4 weeks ago...wow! what an improvement. Isn't it amazing what a little bit of consistency will do? I'm so proud of tonights run I'm going bore you with a chart of my splits....

BTW, my legs felt like cement when I started but did lighten up a bit during the run.  I'm still tight from Sunday's long run.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, May 06, 2009 at 16:39:08 from 198.241.217.15

Wow. You really got a lot faster over the course of your run.

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I got an interesting email from RC.  In a nutshell he shared his concern for my ultra training on a 5K training time budget (4 days a week).  He is blown away at the fact I'm doing ultras without doing 40-60 miles in training runs a week.  Well, I don't know how  that works either but it does.  I just use Galloways method of run/walk/run and I find the finish line and stay uninjured.

Anyway he gave me a homework assignement (time trial) for this week: (from his email)

 time trial consists of:
1. 1 mi very easy warm-up followed by a few minutes of stretching

2. 3 x 1 mile Intervals at very fast but consistent pace. These are best done on a track, but can be done on a pancake flat road using your Garmin for distance measurement. Full rest in between each Interval. So you feel like you can do each at the same pace. Consistency is the key. I know you probably don't do much speedwork but this is real key.

3. 1 mi cool-down.

So I ran the warm up, did the miles at a hard pace and clocked the following: 8:59, 8:55, 9:02

Wow, I was expecting something in the 9:40-10:00 range. I can't even begin to tell you how stoked I was to see those numbers!  That totally boosted my confidence.

BTW, I skipped the 1 mile cool down...it was already 10:15 PM and I was tired. 

------------------

follow up:

Got this below from RC in reference to my time trial.  POD below = Pain of Discipline

Ultra Girl,

That is great. Its also better than I expected. It's really good to do these every once in a while just for reference. They are reality gut check time trials. A good indicator of overall training fitness. I think you are progressing very nicely and this will give us a better indication on where to continue with your training paces. Keep up the good work. Watch out for the heat, its been knocking me down the last week or so. Stay hydrated. Have a great weekend.

RC

Team POD

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From leslie on Fri, May 08, 2009 at 17:59:08 from 76.23.61.78

WOW!!!! That was FAST!! I want your splits!!!!! Go Ultra Girl!!!! Maybe I should take this running more seriously? I dunno, I am having fun plodding along, someone has to come in last, right?

GREAT JOB!!!!!

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Aaaah, summer is back.  Hot and humid this morning.  My shirt was soaked before we even hit the half mile mark. 

Eash run today.  The group ran 4.5 miles and then I went out for a few more miles with a running buddy.  It's gonna be  a hot one all weekend.  Glad the run is over.

I logged almost 57 miles this week.  I think that is a first.  I'm only shooting for 30-35 next week.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sat, May 09, 2009 at 15:04:18 from 71.229.164.25

Congratulations on a big week! Hot and humid does not sound fun. I'll stick with hot and dry.

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Now I see why RC calls the folks he helps team POD (Pain Of Discipline).  I did not want to go out tonight.  It was 90+ degrees today but a nice shower took it down to 75....and 97% humidity.  Still not too bad.  I still didn't want to run.

So I hit the road this evening and mentally plan my run as I start.  I decided not to run my normal route but instead I want to break my normal commonplace routine.  The second thing I decide....no striders.

So I took off (no negative splits...but almost).  Then as I'm rounding close to home guess what I did?  Yep, striders.  Still didn't want to do them .... but they got done.  The 30 second striders ended up with these pace per min.  (BTW, don't get excited, it was only for 30 seconds and I was near to passing out at the end of each) 5:31, 5:32, 5:36, 6:03 min miles.  Please note I was feeling exceptionally lazy on the last one.

I'm glad I went out tonight but I've got to tell you I really really really didn't want to.  One benefit of having someone to coach you....accountability.

 

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From Nevels on Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:20:31 from 131.204.15.93

One thing I do miss about my high school days of training with a coach is the accountability. All too often it is easier to just say "Well, I really could use a recovery day...."

By the way, I think I've nixed the 8-hr (my little sister has a dance recital this weekend in Decatur, AL, and there is a fun little race nearby, so I think I'm heading up there), but I'll be at Sweetwater, and I'm thinking about pulling another stunt along with it.....

From Deborah on Wed, May 13, 2009 at 21:48:29 from 68.98.198.29

Not doing 8 hour race either. No kid coverage. See you at sweetH20.

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I was out the door by 5 AM today. Goodness, I am not much of a morning runner. On the other hand the weather is so much nicer this time (62) of day than at 9 PM at night.

Despite the odd hour, I managed to get in a few miles at a 11:18 pace.  My average HR was 66.  Yes obviously it wasn't on very tight and not reading correctly.  Which reminds me of a comment I once heard while running with our training group.  One fellow wears his garmin but never his HR monitor.  He told me that he did that as a professional courtesy.  He was afraid to show people that lawyers really don't have heart.  Isn't it nice to read that people everywhere tell corny jokes as they do their long runs?

Hope you folks have a great day!

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:35:52 from 71.229.164.25

Congratulations on an early morning run. I think that's the way to go, but to each his or her own.

That's funny about the HRM.

From leslie on Tue, May 19, 2009 at 17:40:25 from 76.23.61.78

You are doing so well with your pace! Way to go! My pace is getting slower with every race I do, oh, well.

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lame lame lame run this morning. Got a few major things on my mind and can't keep my feet moving.

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OK, cheating here.  I did this run at relay for life.  To make it look like I ran today AND tomorrow I did a run from 11-11:45 tonight and then started my next day run 15 min later.

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My goal for today: Run from 12-3AM.

Don't you just love haters??  You know, the folks who like to complain about how healthy your activity is?  I was passing a group of walkers and I here, "shhhhh, here she comes".  Of course I had to perk up my ears to catch the rest of the conversation.  It went something like this.....you see, she's getting tired now also.  Yeah, she is much slower than before....she's gonna quit soon anyway....
 
How these ladies entertained me each loop.  I ended my run sooner than expected due to a pain in my Achilles. (Never had that pain before).  The total mileage that day...too little miles.  I was expecting to get another 6+ miles in that day.  I think it was the curse of the haters.  ha!
Dang, shot my weekend long run to pieces

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Broke RC training rule #1 (or maybe #2).  Never take more than 1 day off between runs.

 

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Did an easy 5.61 miles.  Wanted to go further but the lower intestines had other plans. (The runs). Sorry to be so gross.  I'm thrown as to why after all this time of running my body has taken the last few weeks to decide it wants to unleash lower intestine fury after mile 3.  Morning or night makes no difference. What I eat makes no difference.

Any one got any suggestions? (Again sorry for the odd topic)

Average pace 11:36….slowly moving this down…again, keep this up and I’ll qualify for Boston by age 120.  Yes, I know, I'm not training for speed...I'm just happy that consistency is paying dividends.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, May 20, 2009 at 00:52:37 from 71.229.164.25

I find that running sometimes does that to me. I take Benefiber every morning and that seems to keep me so that I can usually take care of business before I run. Sorry to be somewhat graphic, but you asked.

From Deborah on Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:21:59 from 129.54.8.46

Thanks. I'll take anything that'll help take care of things. I used to drink coffee 1/2 hour before my run for similar reasons. But that was before my morning runs were 7 AM not 5 AM.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:51:10 from 71.229.164.25

I don't take the Benefiber before my run. It doesn't work that quickly. I just take it with my breakfast every day, which I eat after I run.

From Nevels on Wed, May 20, 2009 at 14:54:58 from 131.204.15.93

I'm not sure what combination of things has gotten me to where I am, but for the last 6 or 8 months, I've been answering the call mid-day (say, between 11am and 3pm), which doesn't interfere with morning or evening runs, of which I am fond of both. I think it has to do with my coffee intake around 8am, cleaning me out before my evening run, which in turn, stirs things up enough to clean me out later in the evening before any morning runs (no pun intended...)

Yay bowel topics! (you'd be surprised how many conversations of this type I've had during ultras)

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Good run....no incidents. :)

11:07 average pace 167 average HR

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did my long run in the evening.  I maced my first dog tonight.  Luckily for me it was a nice dog....not that I wanted to mace a nice dog.  I was so freak that I pushed the mace button so hard that it slipped down in my hand and I only ended up macing my hand.  The dog jumped up and gave me some sloppy kisses.  Whew. 

Moving on, I opened up my water bottle and immediatley felt like I just put on jalepeno chapstick.  Yep, this goober opened up the water bottled with the maced hand.  I hope you guys find that amusing as I did.  I cracked myself up on the rest of the run with my fire lips.  I thought about greeting dear hubby with big kiss....but that just seemed too mean. :)

Not a very fast run tonight. 12:20 min mile average.  I'll blame some of it on the dogs....mostly I feel like I was sucking tonight.  I'll try again tomorrow (short run) and try and recapture some confidence.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:56:46 from 71.229.164.25

So mace feels like jalapenos, eh. That is an amuzing anecdote. I hope you got it all washed off.

So the dog turned out to be friendly after all? Was the dog's owner around anywhere?

From Deborah on Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:29:54 from 68.98.198.29

Nah, dog's owner not around. It kept me company for about 3 miles. I felt bad when it nearly got hit by a car in my neighborhood. It had a collar but no ID on it.

Also, the spray residue leaves slight first degree burn on your skin if you don't wash it off quickly enough...ouch.

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Morning run: 3.16 miles.  Warm and humid.  Average pace 11:42.  I'm hoping to make it out for another 4 miles tonight.

I learned something this weekend.  Normally, my long runs are done with my running group where we run using Galloways run/walk/run method.  Feeling a bit full of myself I did my 11 miles last weekend non-stop....except for dog meetings. 

What I noticed:

1. my time was a bit slower

2. I felt sore/tight the next day (I never feel sore/tight)

3. My run today was sluggish becuase 2 days later my legs still have some residule cement left in them.

Well, this is only a test case of one person but I think I'm going to go back to good ole' Jeff''s training and put those walk breaks back in.  BTW, I had to do that in this morning run becuase my legs are sore.  Oddly enough, my finish time today is the same as the previous weeks finish time without the walking break.

Hopefully, y'all will be reading more tonight.

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Night run....

I'm watching the lightning light up the sky and rain pour down in buckets.  I'm thinking I'm not going to get a run in tonight.  Dang.  I'm dressed, have garmin and waiting another 30 minutes hoping this will pass.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:04:18 from 71.229.164.25

I don't have any experience with the Galloway method, but I know that Snoqualmie used it and eventually transitioned off it succesfully. If your goal is to cut out the walk breaks, you should ask her about it.

From Nevels on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58:28 from 131.204.15.93

I ran into Jeff Galloway at a coffee place after a marathon and had an interesting conversation with him about his run/walk method. He has apparently done some pretty extensive analyses of overall times/recovery rates/rest periods to back up his method, and it was very informative talking to him about it, especially considering the applicability of the method to ultrarunning. In my case, I've used a run/walk pattern for long, timed, relatively flat events, but I've always let the terrain decide how I cover it on technical, hilly, or mountainous courses, and I have yet to swallow my pride enough to employ it in a marathon (although I am curious as to how it would affect my times, for better or worse) In any case, to each his/her own.

Gearing up for Sweet H2O?

From Deborah on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 20:23:12 from 68.98.198.29

I'm really quite excited about sweetH20. Did you do it last year? I made the mistake of reading a post about last years run and it sounds like a tough one. It's gonna be fun...I might use a few more choice words than normal during the race however.

I'll most likely be wearing my Macon Tracks or Marathon maniacs shirt. (and I’ll be lined up in the back) Please stop over and say howdy.

From Nevels on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 20:30:36 from 75.143.88.18

I haven't run it before, so I'm looking forward to it as well.

I definitely come by and say hi, and I'll probably be wearing a blue, sleeveless Mountain Mist shirt, so if you see me first....

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Don't think I mentioned that I had surgery yesterday.  Nothing big...just had a walnut size cyst taken off my noggin.  It was both gross and really interesting all at the same time.  Of course I asked the doc to see it once it was out.  Neat stuff.

So I thougth I'd run a couple of miles yesterday until the numbing med wore off.  Lets just say the only place I ran was to bed.  It felt like a 10 lb hot branding iron was placed on my head.  Today it is much better.  Still feels like there is a 5 lb weight on that spot but at least it's no longer burning hot.

Did an easy 5.33 miles this evening.  I think the humidity is hear to stay.  On the plus side, my skin doesn't seem to dry out when it is humid all the time.  Yep, that's it.  The only positive I can think of when it comes to humidity. :)

Hope y'all are having a nice week.  Time for this stank person to hit the shower.

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From Carolyn in Colorado on Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:00:54 from 198.241.217.15

Wow. I'm amazed that you even thought about running the day that you had surgery. I'm glad you just ran to bed. That was the right thing to do. I'm impressed that you got out and ran the next day.

I hope you're noggin gets feeling better.

From Kelli on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 21:23:12 from 71.219.98.183

Running and pain meds....maybe not a great idea!!! I would have taken that excuse and RUN with it, to NOT run, that is!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 18:21:40 from 71.229.164.25

Are you still recovering from your surgery? We haven't heard from you in a while. I hope you're okay.

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Thanks for the other comment prompting a post, Carolyn. I've been postponing this entry.

I participated in the sweetH20 50K. I went in excited but came out with a big fat DNF after 18ish miles. I'm used to walk in the park 50Ks and this one was NOT. That said, I've never had so much fun doing a race than this one. You'll have to check out nevels.fastrunningblog.com for a complete race report...I didn't make it the whole way. :)  What I did do wasn't a race at all but an adventure. I don't know when I've had so much fun during a race.

The plus side to the DNF is the face I got to meet/see folks that are LONG gone by the time I normally finish a race. I even got to hear about Nevels research topic for his thesis....very interesting stuff.

That said, I still went home with my head down for not trying to push just a bit further and go just a bit longer. I sent such an email to my mentor in Memphis, TN. She sent me this quote from Theodore Roosevelt:

”The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls WHO NEITHER KNOW VICTORY NOR DEFEAT."

I feel much better. Thanks hoochie mama, you are the best!

Most importantly, check out what some very caring (and crazy) folks are  doing to raise $ for resarching a terminal childhood disease: http://runacrossalabama.blogspot.com/  

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From Nevels on Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 14:44:54 from 131.204.15.93

Sometimes it's just not in the cards, and given the heat and terrain, 18 was some solid mileage out there.

Just remember, you show me a runner who's never failed, and I'll show you a runner who's never tried anything great...

Great quote from Teddy, by the way.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 16:08:25 from 198.241.217.15

I don't think there are many among us, with us being runners on this blog, who could complete a 50K such as that. Hold your head high. You gave it your best effort.

From Nevels on Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:48:05 from 131.204.15.93

running in secret, I see....

From Nevels on Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 14:24:38 from 131.204.15.93

so... delving into the running underground.... only to re-emerge as the fast chick at the next ultra.... I can see it now...

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Hi!  I've not posted for awhile. ... May perhaps?  I've done a couple of races since then - Boogie marathon, which is both fun and yet not fun all at the same time.  I ran another 50 miler back in Oct in KS.  Got lost and ended up with about 52 miles.  I gotta say, I got my $$ worth from that race . :)

I think I've not been on here as I really stink at running.  I'm a great recreational runner but with respect to races....I just stink.  I got a response from Nevels on my last blog asking if I'm running underground to return much faster.  John, thanks for that good laugh.

Since I've come to terms with the fact I'm just a recreational runner that likes to run marathons I'm back and posting again.  I ran tonight in the beautiful 65 degree weather.  The whole time I keep thinking....wow, it's November!  This almost makes up for all those HOT days over the summer.

So, now that I can enjoy running once again I can share my upcoming races with y'all. 

November - Bartram Forest Winter Trail Run 50K and marathon.  This is my running partners first marathon.  I'm really excited to be running with her.

Dec - nothing

Jan 1 - Dark Side Runners New Years marathon (free race)

Jan 9 - Red Nose Run Marathon (another free race....sweet!)

Jan 16 - Museum of Aviation Marathon

Feb 13 - Iron Horse Endurance 50 miles

March 28: Ocean Drive Marathon

I think a few 5Ks will be sprinkled in.  That said, I don't do speed well so those are just social calls to see my fast friends get thier awards.

I'm still trying to decide what summer and winter races I'd like to run.  I'd love to do the Lean Horse in Aug or the Dances With Dirt in Hell but those require airline tickets and I'll have to wait and see what the year brings. 

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From Huans32 on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:29:31 from 138.64.2.76

Well welcome back to the blog again. Man your lucky to have some free races to run. Wish we had more of those around here. Oh and your a distance runner. 52 miles WOW!! Great job.

From Nevels on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:46:27 from 131.204.15.93

Good to see you back.

Was it the Heartland 50 in KS? If so, I have a friend who was out there also (Rob Youngren in the 100)...

Lean Horse sounds like a good race, but I'm with you - travel=expensive=bad

As far as speed, don't worry about it. I can beat a few people in the short races, but in the long ones (i.e. the ones I really like and train for), I'm always in the back of the pack (e.g. 29/38 at Pinhoti, and I was closer to the VERY back, maybe 35 or 36/38, until mile 90).

Oh, and are these free marathons open to us outsiders? The Red Nose Run sounds tempting...

From Little Engine That Could on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:57:53 from 68.98.198.29

The Red Nose Run is held by the Columbus Road Runners. Here is the website for more info: http://www.columbusroadrunners.com/event_detail.aspx?recID=112

You can cheer me as I sweep the course. :)

BTW, how are you feeling now after ur 100?

From Little Engine That Could on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:59:35 from 68.98.198.29

Also, to answer ur question, yes, it was the heartland race. Your friend should tell you how hard it would be to get lost in that very well marked race. Somehow I did it. I seem to have a secret talent for doing that.

From Nevels on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:12:52 from 131.204.15.93

I might head over there for the Red Nose Run; sounds like fun...

I'm actually feeling fine now. I was getting antsy just three or four days after the race, but made myself wait until Saturday to run. I did a 3-mile "systems check" on Saturday, around 5 on Monday, and I'll probably run today and Friday. (been holding off on posting up on the blog because my mom asked me to wait since she told a few people about my race report that have yet to read it, but I'll post up in another couple of days). Hopefully I'll be back up to full speed training either next week or the week after.

And getting lost just adds to the adventure...

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:17:03 from 198.241.159.80

Welcome back! I'm not sure how someone who runs the distances that you run can call themselves a "recreational" runner.

From leslie peterson on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 18:41:56 from 76.23.61.78

Hi there!!! I am a recreational runner too!!!! I love it, it's perfect, we run for the pure joy of running, to heck with all the technical details and the emphasis on speed. It looks like we both finished our first 50 miler within 10 minutes of each other. I am watching you, my friend!! I need to get busy on my calendar, I agree, I have to stay close to home, these out of state runs are pricey. My next race is the Red Mountain 50k in April, I need a winter run to keep me honest. Thanks for dropping by to say hi!

Race: Will Robinson 5K (3.1 Miles) 37:17:00
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I took my 7 year old to a 5K about an hour from my house.  I was totally amazed by my daughter. She finished 165 out of 265 people.  The last 5K I took her to was in the summer during a very hot day.  We didn't do well.  So I backed the pace and run time down some.  We did a 30 sec run and 30 sec walk the entire race.  The kid sprinted each time the watched beep.  When I say sprinted the garmin shows 8:15 to 8:30 min mile pace.  During our walk breaks she skipped.

There was a prize to the school that had the most participation.  I think what really encouraged her to keep running was the comment we kept hearing after the half way mark.  There were different versions but mostly it went like this, "I can't believe that little girl just past me!!"  We heard that from both middle school and high school kids. Those folks might/might not catch up to us on our walk break.  When they did it just made her more determined to push harder in the next run cycle. I don't ever think I've seen such determination in her before.

The last half mile was all down hill so I turned off my watch and told her to run it in.  I think she took one more walk break and was off again when she heard feet closing in behind her.  Much to her disapointment, she took 4th in her age group. 

She is already chomping at the bit to do the next 5K race. You know that I'm swelling with pride over here.

 

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Added the P90X workout to my routine. Holy cow I am sore!

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From Nevels on Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:06:44 from 75.143.90.116

I have some friends who have started (and quit, and restarted, and re-quit) doing P90X, and they all said it was a great workout. Maybe one day, when I decide to get in shape, I'll give it a try...

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Went out for an easy run today.  I've decided that I need to cut back to the P90X Lean (less strenous and more cardio) than to complete the next 89 days doing the P90X classic.  It is hard running when your body is this sore.

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easy run today

Race: The Bartram Forest 50K/Marathon (26.2 Miles) 06:36:00
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The Bartram Forest 50K/Marathon is one of my most favorite races.  It is a relatively easy trail race with all the works.  The food is plenty, the volunteers are da bomb, the bathroom is inside an building, there is no time limit, it is local, and my running buddies make up about 25%  of the race.  The course itself is a 5.25 mile loop.  There is some single track, some gravel, a little mud, but mostly it is like running on a mowed front yard. 

I had the pleasure of running with a friend on her first marathon attempt.  You know, it is always an honor to be with someone when they cross the finish line for the first time.

Before race day we are told to wear bright clothing.  It is hunting season and apparently this park is now open to hunting.  Ahhh, there is nothing like running in the woods with the slight nagging fear of being mistaken for a deer and shot.  I bought 2 bright orange hats for my friend and myself.

As usual I made a wrong turn and got off the race trail.  What makes this odd is that it happened about the first 1/10th a mile of the race.  I went out for an early start with a few friends that wanted to finish early. (Allowed by RD as long as we keep track of our start time).  Silly us followed the trail the race took the previous 2 years.  The course was changed from the year before. It was really fun to see the front runners jog past us on their first loop. (We of course are now going the wrong way on the trail). OK, so we did a 5K before we hit the trail for the “real” loops. 

Stef (accidental marathoner), Tim, Deb (doing her 1st marathon), and me

So, we hit the aid station shed outerwear, get some water, snacks because the fudge was really good and headed out onto the trail….this time in the correct direction and trail.  So we run loops 2, 3, 4, and then take the trail backwards (on purpose) for loop 5 just for a change.  We still had a few miles to make up so we went back out onto the trail for another 1.75 miles, turned around and came back in.  Thank goodness for Garmins!

Another thing I like about this race is the finish prize….A gingerbread man.  OK, so it is not really a good finisher medal for someone’s first marathon but it was darned tasty.

Oddly enough one of the ladies that went out with us in the beginning only planned on doing just 15 miles (3 loops).  We were having so much fun (and she was still feeling good) that she continued with us until the end.  So not only did she run an accidental marathon but she PR her marathon time to boot.  What an incredible day!!!

As for my friend who finished her first marathon, I think I’m going to give her one of my generic medals from a previous race and make some type of plaque for her that contains her finish line photo and medal.

 

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From Nevels on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 14:47:06 from 131.204.15.93

Sounds like fun. Looking forward to the pics.

I went ahead and signed up for the Red Nose Marathon. Not sure if I'll run hard or easy, but how could I turn down a free marathon?

400 m race pace800 m race pace1500 m race pace3 K race pace5 K race pace10 K race paceLactic ThresholdAerobic ThresholdMarathon PaceBase IIBase IRegenerationTotal Miles
0.000.000.000.006.2512.800.400.00456.780.000.000.00476.23
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